Yes, no one EVER tells anyone that they can't PM mod_squad or even, one of the mods personally ... because that is one reason why we are here.
I'm sorry I was out for a bit, I had to bring Lyric to the ER yesterday b/c of her asthma ... just got back home late last night & kind babied her all day ... :)
I can see where AZM is coming from. If she was told to use anon mama, but not given the password how was she supposed to know that she wasn't to make another name.
I think some of the mods were a little harsh, and instead of defending yourself, you should suck it up, apologize, and everyone can move on, but an apology with blaming the person you are apologizing too does little for anything.
And yes, everyone has bad days, Britt, but as a mod, when you have a bad day you can't just go off on people. Like it or not the mods here are held to a higher standard, and if you were having a bad day, maybe signing off the internet instead of taking it out on someone who obviously needed help would have been a better choice.
I haven't really been on here much but I checked out what was going on and I think some of you are being a little unfair on the mods.
Hindsight is 20/20 and yes, certain people shouldn't have said certain things but they're done now. I think there's been a lot of snarkiness from a few people surrounding this whole thing and it needs to stop.
I also think AZM/last chance's behaviour has been a little strange. I personally don't know if she should be banned...maybe if she posts a salute so we at least know she's real. I definitely wouldn't be comfortable with her having BR access until I know for sure she isn't a troll.
I think some of the mods were a little harsh, and instead of defending yourself, you should suck it up, apologize, and everyone can move on, but an apology with blaming the person you are apologizing too does little for anything.
And yes, everyone has bad days, Britt, but as a mod, when you have a bad day you can't just go off on people. Like it or not the mods here are held to a higher standard, and if you were having a bad day, maybe signing off the internet instead of taking it out on someone who obviously needed help would have been a better choice.
Word. I've stayed out of this for the last few days because I'm pretty disappointed with the lack of owning up, lack of apology, lack of even acknowledgement with not only the attitude, but the destruction of safe space done by the people who should be maintaining it.
Like I said, people have been asked to step down for less, and I maintain the position I had all along, but obviously excuses are en vogue this season.
AZM/LC I apologize for the way your situation was handled. I am sorry for any snarkyness I directed at you. I am sorry for commenting on your post after you asked to have it deleted. I misinterpreted your asking to have the post deleted as frustration that you were not getting the responses pictures are supposed to get, comments on how awesome the kick ass mamas and their kiddos are, and not as a feeling of needing the pictures down for safety. I am sorry that the anonymous mama procedure was not made clear and that the stickies are hard to peruse. This situation has inspired us to reorganize the site a bit to make it more user friendly.
I think some of the mods were a little harsh, and instead of defending yourself, you should suck it up, apologize, and everyone can move on, but an apology with blaming the person you are apologizing too does little for anything.
And yes, everyone has bad days, Britt, but as a mod, when you have a bad day you can't just go off on people. Like it or not the mods here are held to a higher standard, and if you were having a bad day, maybe signing off the internet instead of taking it out on someone who obviously needed help would have been a better choice.
Word. I've stayed out of this for the last few days because I'm pretty disappointed with the lack of owning up, lack of apology, lack of even acknowledgement with not only the attitude, but the destruction of safe space done by the people who should be maintaining it.
Like I said, people have been asked to step down for less, and I maintain the position I had all along, but obviously excuses are en vogue this season.
They have apolagized.
AM started several threads and if you read all of them youll see them apolagize.
idk why this is still going on.
I dont see anybody apolagizing to the mods for their snarkiness.
I think we need to analyze the anger that is being directed at Britt. Britt is one of the youngest mamas on the site. This site is for Britt. I think it is upsetting that older mamas (allies) are urging like the youngest mom on the site to give up her leadership. Ideally all of the mods would be younger.
Being a mod isn't a state of perfectness, it is a state of learning and unlearning a lot. Mods should be allowed to be figuring things out, especially if that means that they are on the younger/more disenfranchised end of the Girl Mom spectrum.
Well versed, social justice oriented members like you, Naivete, are crucial to the site. But we should be putting the "power" in the hands of the less empowered.
We are talking about who the next round of mods should be and to me, they should be the younger mamas on the site.
My ideal group of mods would be all mods who are under 18, but our site doesn't really have that following..
Maybe we should focus on figuring out a way to reach more younger mamas. I know they are out there, how do we bring them here?
I haven't really been on here much but I checked out what was going on and I think some of you are being a little unfair on the mods.
Hindsight is 20/20 and yes, certain people shouldn't have said certain things but they're done now. I think there's been a lot of snarkiness from a few people surrounding this whole thing and it needs to stop.
Not to mention the whole "cliqueness" of this site. I noticed that there are a few members on here that stand behind each other when something big like this goes down, and it's not fair on other members' parts because it kind of feels a bit...like an empire...because of certain members knowing each other longer, and I know this is probably going to offend some people, but it's true...I don't think I'm the only one who notices this either... I think people just need to get along, to be totally honest, and I'm not directing this at anyone in particular, but to everyone on this site, me included.
Im going to come out and say that i was one of the peoples that thought Britt was snarky.
She was. Point blank. To be honest an excuse of "oh everyone gets snarky, yada yada" Is not fair. As a mod i feel you need to stand back analyze for a quick min and react in the most respectful manor possible.
If you throw tude at every person that doesnt obey or gets a tude, its not going to look good especially to new members, as seeing you as a "mod" person.
I never once said Britt should step down. I just pointed out that as a mod especially she was way to rude and coped a tude when she should have taken a deep breath and thought first. Yes everyone makes mistakes but as a mod i feel its crucial to eliminate any you can. If you have to walk away and breath for 5 mins to do that then do it.
I am a long term member. When i stand behind someone its because i belive in what they say. Its not because "im in the clique". Its because i truthfully belive what they say and stand behind them. Wether thier new or old.
Im not a young mom but im not an older mom. Im stuck in the middle. I was young when i came here. Im currently 20 and i was 17 when pregnant with my first. So i was a younger mom when first here. I never got the chance to mod. Personally i would love to BUT as some would think im an "older mom" now.
word, yes she may be one of the target members but that isn't an excuse to alienate other target members.
And I don't really see a clique? I was never friends with AM, but have been friends with most of the mods for years, but I stand by AM because that's where I feel I should be. Tricia was never friends with AM and is a former mod, so I don't see where this cliqueness is.
Like I said, I wasn't pointing finger at just some posters in particular. I don't think there's anything wrong with standing behind another person, but it probably makes other members feel excluded when they are being "out numbered" by the lack of support they have on their end...idk...I'm not really making sense right now... :oops:
I agree I love britt to death shes awesome but i too thought she was bit rude and I said that...Its not to be taken offensivly Like I said I love her......I say something about what I think is wrong no matter who it is weather it be my really good friend or not.
word, yes she may be one of the target members but that isn't an excuse to alienate other target members.
And I don't really see a clique? I was never friends with AM, but have been friends with most of the mods for years, but I stand by AM because that's where I feel I should be. Tricia was never friends with AM and is a former mod, so I don't see where this cliqueness is.
I don't think that's what she means by cliqueness.
I can see StarlightBlaze's point, I kind of think this board is a little cliquey too. A lot of you have known each other for a long time and it can be intimidating for new members. I've been here almost a year, and sometimes I still feel like I don't 'fit in'. I know this site isn't geared towards me, I'm an older mama now, (I just turned 24 last week :( ), although I was a teen mama at 17, but I see a lot of younger girls joining up and not sticking around and I think the tightness of the board is part of the reason for that.
I really admire you Naivete but I think you can't really call Britt out for snarkiness when you're guilty of it also. adcaela is spot on with everything she said in her last post, I think.
I don't know why this is still going on, it's turning into drama and that's never good.
I don't think that's what she means by cliqueness.
I can see StarlightBlaze's point, I kind of think this board is a little cliquey too. A lot of you have known each other for a long time and it can be intimidating for new members. I've been here almost a year, and sometimes I still feel like I don't 'fit in'. I know this site isn't geared towards me, I'm an older mama now, (I just turned 24 last week :( ), although I was a teen mama at 17, but I see a lot of younger girls joining up and not sticking around and I think the tightness of the board is part of the reason for that.
Thank you for understanding! I didn't want to offend people and say they were in the wrong for having friends, heck, we all need friends, and I know that you can't be friends with EVERYONE on the board. No doubt, but I do think that everyone should be friendly and respective of each other. Drama, bitterness, and just plain negativity won't solve ANY problem!
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I really admire you Naivete but I think you can't really call Britt out for snarkiness when you're guilty of it also. adcaela is spot on with everything she said in her last post, I think.
I agree. I like Naivete, and this is exactly why I called myself out on being involved too with "cliqueness". I consider a few members on here in my "favorites" book, and I know that isn't right, and I should just accept everyone, and be civil and friendly with everyone, no matter what. But then again, that's why we have to learn and unlearn off each other's wrongs.
I dunno ... I turn 25 in August ... I won't be a mod by then, for sure. I just feel to old to be modding for a site for teen mamas. I was 18 and in high school when I got pregnant and gave birth 4 months after H.S. graduation.
I agree with adcaela with an ideal group of all the mods being under 18, but it is hard to find people that we all know, are comfortable with and are around long enough, you know ... ?
Maybe we need to be more inviting towards the young mamas that join, I can admit though, since we've had a couple troll problems it's hard to completely trust someone new right away, I guess I get paranoid ... I dunno.
I have appoligized about not explaning the anonmama thing in the pm. I am very sorry about that because I feel a lot could have been prevented if I had explained to her. I did not know that she was unaware of the anonmama screenname, I assumed that she did because she had been here for over 6 months. That assumption was wrong. I didn't mean to not tell her what it was, its not like I wanted her to be confused or anything. It was a mistake.
I also believe charlie had asked AM/LC to appoligize for lying about us saying she wasn't allowed to pm the mod squad, but she hasn't.
About the cliquiness, when I first came to this site I felt that way too. It just takes time to get to know people and make friends. I do think there are different "circles" so to speak but I don't think there is anyone who would be excluded, its just a matter of getting to know people. We have been burned in the past by trolls so I think that is another reason why some people are apprehensive to get to know new people on the boards.
About the cliquiness, when I first came to this site I felt that way too. It just takes time to get to know people and make friends. I do think there are different "circles" so to speak but I don't think there is anyone who would be excluded, its just a matter of getting to know people. We have been burned in the past by trolls so I think that is another reason why some people are apprehensive to get to know new people on the boards.
I agree with this. It's hard to also just "trust" someone right away, sadly because of the trolls we've had in the past. And some of this stuff has run into our livejournals, which totally sucks. And it's so true - it's just a matter of getting to know people. And we are here to help everyone, and it does get hard when you see those, "Help, I'm pregnant" and say they could "never kill their baby ..." and we all try so hard to help them understand and then that member never comes back.
I was snarky because at that point I just considered her a troll. She wasn't a real person to me anymore because of all the drama she had been causing us for days, I just assumed she was another fucking troll. and I agree that I should have taken into consideration the fact that I am a mod and I should have been more calm and less "me" about things, but I wasn't and I'm sorry. That's all I can say to that because what the hell else do you want me to do? and Naivete, you are the last person that needs to be calling anyone on their snarkyness.
I did what I did and banned her because I thought I was protecting the girls on the site from a person that I thought (and still think) is a troll.
and as far as the stepping down thing..as soon as I can talk to all of the mods about it I'll get back to you. Because I'm over it and this drama is going to continue until I fucking do apparently.
and as far as the stepping down thing..as soon as I can talk to all of the mods about it I'll get back to you. Because I'm over it and this drama is going to continue until I fucking do apparently.
I didn't want to get into this whole drama, but I hope you don't step down. I think you're a great mod. Everyone makes mistakes (just like AM did, just like we all have at some point). You've owned up to that and apologized and I'm sure that if anything like this happens again, you'll take what you learned from this and be able to respond better.
So, yeah. I hope you decide to stay. :)
I am sorry too especially for my snarkiness. When you feel personally attacked it can be hard to keep your cool. Mods should be able to do that but also I am human. All of us are and we should be able to have good and bad days. I think its imprortant to be able to admit we make mistakes and learn from them.
This site can be incredibly cliquey. Its hard when you have known ppl for four years... I think we are all guilty of not accepting new ppl as easily as we should. It was cliquey when I got here four years ago and its the same now. We as a site need to work on that.
I will be away on business for two days and will get back to this when I get home.
I really havent said much in regards to this whole situation, but I want to say that I honestly dont think Britt stepping down is going to "solve this drama".. honestly Id hate to see that happen. Yes she was snarky.. but she definately isnt the only one. And honestly, I have to agree with Britt on this one.. her erratic behavior definately has me thinking troll.. I hate to judge someone, but its hard not too when someone continues to stir up trouble even after apologies are made and its been made clear to her she has alot of people worried here. IDK this whole ordeal just seems very "trolly" to me, and Id hate to think all this drama is unfolding when if in fact Britts suspicions were right, she did the right thing.. (by banning that is)
i have made a few posts about in regards to the AM/LC stuff. and it was all really rubbing me the wrong way. I realize that one can get really wrapped up in themselves, especially when help is just a click away . posting is so easy. short answers are so simple. its so easy to misunderstand everything. all the time ( even this doesn't make sense) right? when it just keeps going. no you did this, no you did that. for a member that has made over 100 posts and most have them have been short little posts not really about anything much. i am skeptical. doesn't matter who it is. i would be skeptical.
and this "drama" goes on and on. and some people want everyone to apologize, some people want the boards to change. now the moderators and WHO can moderate is being challenged. its like. what is the protocol for all of this?
If we are dealing with a troll (as im sure has happened in the past) what happened? how did you recognize it?
I can be very snarky, that's why I'm not a mod =b And the website I do mod at, I'm not snarky, see how that works?
And everyone here feels that way, there's been a bazillion posts about the cliqueness of gm when really there is no cliqueness, you just have to jump in and know that everyone feels the way you do. I've been here for years and there's no one I PM, or email, or call, or really talk to outside of the threads that go on here. And sometimes I feel lonely too, seeing other girls meet up and call each other and whatever, but it's not like I'm really reaching out that much either. I don't have many friends on GM and a lot of my threads go without much responses, but I'm someone i guess a lot of people would consider as part of a clique. But that's the thing, I feel just like you about 99% of the time, I don't talk to anyone. A lot of the times the cliqueness is just in peoples heads, and if you reach out and PM someone, you break in, or whatever.
I was snarky because at that point I just considered her a troll. She wasn't a real person to me anymore because of all the drama she had been causing us for days, I just assumed she was another fucking troll. and I agree that I should have taken into consideration the fact that I am a mod and I should have been more calm and less "me" about things, but I wasn't and I'm sorry. That's all I can say to that because what the hell else do you want me to do? and Naivete, you are the last person that needs to be calling anyone on their snarkyness.
I did what I did and banned her because I thought I was protecting the girls on the site from a person that I thought (and still think) is a troll.
I've already apologized where I needed to.
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In all fairness Britt, I think that you are missing the point, she wasn't a real person to you? I think that when you get to that point (and I speak from experience) it is time to take a step back, I don't think that you necessarily need to step down but I do think you need some "time off" as when people aren't real anymore there is a definite problem.
The problem with having all mods under 18 is because alot of younger members that join dont stick around. Or stick around for a few months and then disappear. Which is unfortuanate.
I try to be as welcoming as i can as one person.
Also personally i dont think picking a mod thats been here less then a year is a good idea or fair.
I knew a member for a few years here, we all did but i was paticularly close to her and well come to find out she was a fuken troll. So i WAS PERSONALLY affected. BUT i dont start pointing fingers and throwing the word TROLL around unless i really know. Some of you probably didnt even "meet" him/her, whatever the hell it was.
Tricia, I think what Britt meant is that she assumed AlexZander's Mom and all her other screennames were a troll, and that is what she meant by not a real person. Not that she didn't see her as real because this is the internet.
and Kelly, that is exactly the problem with getting a new mod who is young, most of the time when someone has been around here long enough to know what is going on they are older.
Yes, no one EVER tells anyone that they can't PM mod_squad or even, one of the mods personally ... because that is one reason why we are here.
I'm sorry I was out for a bit, I had to bring Lyric to the ER yesterday b/c of her asthma ... just got back home late last night & kind babied her all day ... :)
I am catching up on reading everything.
I can see where AZM is coming from. If she was told to use anon mama, but not given the password how was she supposed to know that she wasn't to make another name.
I think some of the mods were a little harsh, and instead of defending yourself, you should suck it up, apologize, and everyone can move on, but an apology with blaming the person you are apologizing too does little for anything.
And yes, everyone has bad days, Britt, but as a mod, when you have a bad day you can't just go off on people. Like it or not the mods here are held to a higher standard, and if you were having a bad day, maybe signing off the internet instead of taking it out on someone who obviously needed help would have been a better choice.
I haven't really been on here much but I checked out what was going on and I think some of you are being a little unfair on the mods.
Hindsight is 20/20 and yes, certain people shouldn't have said certain things but they're done now. I think there's been a lot of snarkiness from a few people surrounding this whole thing and it needs to stop.
I also think AZM/last chance's behaviour has been a little strange. I personally don't know if she should be banned...maybe if she posts a salute so we at least know she's real. I definitely wouldn't be comfortable with her having BR access until I know for sure she isn't a troll.
Word. I've stayed out of this for the last few days because I'm pretty disappointed with the lack of owning up, lack of apology, lack of even acknowledgement with not only the attitude, but the destruction of safe space done by the people who should be maintaining it.
Like I said, people have been asked to step down for less, and I maintain the position I had all along, but obviously excuses are en vogue this season.
AZM/LC I apologize for the way your situation was handled. I am sorry for any snarkyness I directed at you. I am sorry for commenting on your post after you asked to have it deleted. I misinterpreted your asking to have the post deleted as frustration that you were not getting the responses pictures are supposed to get, comments on how awesome the kick ass mamas and their kiddos are, and not as a feeling of needing the pictures down for safety. I am sorry that the anonymous mama procedure was not made clear and that the stickies are hard to peruse. This situation has inspired us to reorganize the site a bit to make it more user friendly.
They have apolagized.
AM started several threads and if you read all of them youll see them apolagize.
idk why this is still going on.
I dont see anybody apolagizing to the mods for their snarkiness.
I think we need to analyze the anger that is being directed at Britt. Britt is one of the youngest mamas on the site. This site is for Britt. I think it is upsetting that older mamas (allies) are urging like the youngest mom on the site to give up her leadership. Ideally all of the mods would be younger.
Being a mod isn't a state of perfectness, it is a state of learning and unlearning a lot. Mods should be allowed to be figuring things out, especially if that means that they are on the younger/more disenfranchised end of the Girl Mom spectrum.
Well versed, social justice oriented members like you, Naivete, are crucial to the site. But we should be putting the "power" in the hands of the less empowered.
We are talking about who the next round of mods should be and to me, they should be the younger mamas on the site.
My ideal group of mods would be all mods who are under 18, but our site doesn't really have that following..
Maybe we should focus on figuring out a way to reach more younger mamas. I know they are out there, how do we bring them here?
Not to mention the whole "cliqueness" of this site. I noticed that there are a few members on here that stand behind each other when something big like this goes down, and it's not fair on other members' parts because it kind of feels a bit...like an empire...because of certain members knowing each other longer, and I know this is probably going to offend some people, but it's true...I don't think I'm the only one who notices this either... I think people just need to get along, to be totally honest, and I'm not directing this at anyone in particular, but to everyone on this site, me included.
Im going to come out and say that i was one of the peoples that thought Britt was snarky.
She was. Point blank. To be honest an excuse of "oh everyone gets snarky, yada yada" Is not fair. As a mod i feel you need to stand back analyze for a quick min and react in the most respectful manor possible.
If you throw tude at every person that doesnt obey or gets a tude, its not going to look good especially to new members, as seeing you as a "mod" person.
I never once said Britt should step down. I just pointed out that as a mod especially she was way to rude and coped a tude when she should have taken a deep breath and thought first. Yes everyone makes mistakes but as a mod i feel its crucial to eliminate any you can. If you have to walk away and breath for 5 mins to do that then do it.
I am a long term member. When i stand behind someone its because i belive in what they say. Its not because "im in the clique". Its because i truthfully belive what they say and stand behind them. Wether thier new or old.
Im not a young mom but im not an older mom. Im stuck in the middle. I was young when i came here. Im currently 20 and i was 17 when pregnant with my first. So i was a younger mom when first here. I never got the chance to mod. Personally i would love to BUT as some would think im an "older mom" now.
Are older moms not allowed to mod? :?
word, yes she may be one of the target members but that isn't an excuse to alienate other target members.
And I don't really see a clique? I was never friends with AM, but have been friends with most of the mods for years, but I stand by AM because that's where I feel I should be. Tricia was never friends with AM and is a former mod, so I don't see where this cliqueness is.
Like I said, I wasn't pointing finger at just some posters in particular. I don't think there's anything wrong with standing behind another person, but it probably makes other members feel excluded when they are being "out numbered" by the lack of support they have on their end...idk...I'm not really making sense right now... :oops:
I agree I love britt to death shes awesome but i too thought she was bit rude and I said that...Its not to be taken offensivly Like I said I love her......I say something about what I think is wrong no matter who it is weather it be my really good friend or not.
I don't think that's what she means by cliqueness.
I can see StarlightBlaze's point, I kind of think this board is a little cliquey too. A lot of you have known each other for a long time and it can be intimidating for new members. I've been here almost a year, and sometimes I still feel like I don't 'fit in'. I know this site isn't geared towards me, I'm an older mama now, (I just turned 24 last week :( ), although I was a teen mama at 17, but I see a lot of younger girls joining up and not sticking around and I think the tightness of the board is part of the reason for that.
I really admire you Naivete but I think you can't really call Britt out for snarkiness when you're guilty of it also. adcaela is spot on with everything she said in her last post, I think.
I don't know why this is still going on, it's turning into drama and that's never good.
Thank you for understanding! I didn't want to offend people and say they were in the wrong for having friends, heck, we all need friends, and I know that you can't be friends with EVERYONE on the board. No doubt, but I do think that everyone should be friendly and respective of each other. Drama, bitterness, and just plain negativity won't solve ANY problem!
I agree. I like Naivete, and this is exactly why I called myself out on being involved too with "cliqueness". I consider a few members on here in my "favorites" book, and I know that isn't right, and I should just accept everyone, and be civil and friendly with everyone, no matter what. But then again, that's why we have to learn and unlearn off each other's wrongs.
I dunno ... I turn 25 in August ... I won't be a mod by then, for sure. I just feel to old to be modding for a site for teen mamas. I was 18 and in high school when I got pregnant and gave birth 4 months after H.S. graduation.
I agree with adcaela with an ideal group of all the mods being under 18, but it is hard to find people that we all know, are comfortable with and are around long enough, you know ... ?
Maybe we need to be more inviting towards the young mamas that join, I can admit though, since we've had a couple troll problems it's hard to completely trust someone new right away, I guess I get paranoid ... I dunno.
I have appoligized about not explaning the anonmama thing in the pm. I am very sorry about that because I feel a lot could have been prevented if I had explained to her. I did not know that she was unaware of the anonmama screenname, I assumed that she did because she had been here for over 6 months. That assumption was wrong. I didn't mean to not tell her what it was, its not like I wanted her to be confused or anything. It was a mistake.
I also believe charlie had asked AM/LC to appoligize for lying about us saying she wasn't allowed to pm the mod squad, but she hasn't.
About the cliquiness, when I first came to this site I felt that way too. It just takes time to get to know people and make friends. I do think there are different "circles" so to speak but I don't think there is anyone who would be excluded, its just a matter of getting to know people. We have been burned in the past by trolls so I think that is another reason why some people are apprehensive to get to know new people on the boards.
I agree with this. It's hard to also just "trust" someone right away, sadly because of the trolls we've had in the past. And some of this stuff has run into our livejournals, which totally sucks. And it's so true - it's just a matter of getting to know people. And we are here to help everyone, and it does get hard when you see those, "Help, I'm pregnant" and say they could "never kill their baby ..." and we all try so hard to help them understand and then that member never comes back.
I was snarky because at that point I just considered her a troll. She wasn't a real person to me anymore because of all the drama she had been causing us for days, I just assumed she was another fucking troll. and I agree that I should have taken into consideration the fact that I am a mod and I should have been more calm and less "me" about things, but I wasn't and I'm sorry. That's all I can say to that because what the hell else do you want me to do? and Naivete, you are the last person that needs to be calling anyone on their snarkyness.
I did what I did and banned her because I thought I was protecting the girls on the site from a person that I thought (and still think) is a troll.
I've already apologized where I needed to.
and as far as the stepping down thing..as soon as I can talk to all of the mods about it I'll get back to you. Because I'm over it and this drama is going to continue until I fucking do apparently.
I didn't want to get into this whole drama, but I hope you don't step down. I think you're a great mod. Everyone makes mistakes (just like AM did, just like we all have at some point). You've owned up to that and apologized and I'm sure that if anything like this happens again, you'll take what you learned from this and be able to respond better.
So, yeah. I hope you decide to stay. :)
I do want to say to Britt, thank you for the apologies.
I am sorry too especially for my snarkiness. When you feel personally attacked it can be hard to keep your cool. Mods should be able to do that but also I am human. All of us are and we should be able to have good and bad days. I think its imprortant to be able to admit we make mistakes and learn from them.
This site can be incredibly cliquey. Its hard when you have known ppl for four years... I think we are all guilty of not accepting new ppl as easily as we should. It was cliquey when I got here four years ago and its the same now. We as a site need to work on that.
I will be away on business for two days and will get back to this when I get home.
I really havent said much in regards to this whole situation, but I want to say that I honestly dont think Britt stepping down is going to "solve this drama".. honestly Id hate to see that happen. Yes she was snarky.. but she definately isnt the only one. And honestly, I have to agree with Britt on this one.. her erratic behavior definately has me thinking troll.. I hate to judge someone, but its hard not too when someone continues to stir up trouble even after apologies are made and its been made clear to her she has alot of people worried here. IDK this whole ordeal just seems very "trolly" to me, and Id hate to think all this drama is unfolding when if in fact Britts suspicions were right, she did the right thing.. (by banning that is)
i have made a few posts about in regards to the AM/LC stuff. and it was all really rubbing me the wrong way. I realize that one can get really wrapped up in themselves, especially when help is just a click away . posting is so easy. short answers are so simple. its so easy to misunderstand everything. all the time ( even this doesn't make sense) right? when it just keeps going. no you did this, no you did that. for a member that has made over 100 posts and most have them have been short little posts not really about anything much. i am skeptical. doesn't matter who it is. i would be skeptical.
and this "drama" goes on and on. and some people want everyone to apologize, some people want the boards to change. now the moderators and WHO can moderate is being challenged. its like. what is the protocol for all of this?
If we are dealing with a troll (as im sure has happened in the past) what happened? how did you recognize it?
I can be very snarky, that's why I'm not a mod =b And the website I do mod at, I'm not snarky, see how that works?
And everyone here feels that way, there's been a bazillion posts about the cliqueness of gm when really there is no cliqueness, you just have to jump in and know that everyone feels the way you do. I've been here for years and there's no one I PM, or email, or call, or really talk to outside of the threads that go on here. And sometimes I feel lonely too, seeing other girls meet up and call each other and whatever, but it's not like I'm really reaching out that much either. I don't have many friends on GM and a lot of my threads go without much responses, but I'm someone i guess a lot of people would consider as part of a clique. But that's the thing, I feel just like you about 99% of the time, I don't talk to anyone. A lot of the times the cliqueness is just in peoples heads, and if you reach out and PM someone, you break in, or whatever.
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In all fairness Britt, I think that you are missing the point, she wasn't a real person to you? I think that when you get to that point (and I speak from experience) it is time to take a step back, I don't think that you necessarily need to step down but I do think you need some "time off" as when people aren't real anymore there is a definite problem.
The problem with having all mods under 18 is because alot of younger members that join dont stick around. Or stick around for a few months and then disappear. Which is unfortuanate.
I try to be as welcoming as i can as one person.
Also personally i dont think picking a mod thats been here less then a year is a good idea or fair.
I knew a member for a few years here, we all did but i was paticularly close to her and well come to find out she was a fuken troll. So i WAS PERSONALLY affected. BUT i dont start pointing fingers and throwing the word TROLL around unless i really know. Some of you probably didnt even "meet" him/her, whatever the hell it was.
Tricia, I think what Britt meant is that she assumed AlexZander's Mom and all her other screennames were a troll, and that is what she meant by not a real person. Not that she didn't see her as real because this is the internet.
and Kelly, that is exactly the problem with getting a new mod who is young, most of the time when someone has been around here long enough to know what is going on they are older.
She's been here drama free for 8 months, I think it's safe to use common sense and realize she's not a troll.
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