We honestly do and have discussed possible trolls ... and even follow up on PMs we get from people regarding trolls. As well as anyone trying to add extra drama or anti-choice remarks, racist, etc ... and sadly there has been some that have been missed or not discuss. RM2B is one that no one noticed right away. And thanks to the ones who did out her as a troll ... she even had an LJ.
But anyways, this is about as useful as banging yr head on a brick wall, so y'all have fun now.
I just hope that it's recognized that things in this situation were dealt with 100%, and know better for next time a situation arises.
AM if you're reading this, sorry you're dealing with all this ganging up on drama, and I hope you're doing okay, you have my email feel free to use it. Or like, zomg hack it and stuff.
With RM2B people had their suspicions about her for over half a year before people started even looking into it, and people spent weeks digging through not only GM archives but other sites and investigating all over the damn internet gathering enough proof before any action at all would be taken on GM.
I just have to say that this is the biggest difference I see in the two cases. RM2B was not just banned because one mod wanted to ban her, it was after MONTHS of research so that we wouldn't push away someone who REALLLY needed help.
Why are you all attacking one another? Seriously if one mama got pushed away from the boards its bad enough. But why sit here and continue to belittle one another? How is that productive at ALL? We are all grown ups here, so please start acting like it. Apologies were made all around and LC/AZ knows she is welcome here. Apologies were made to her and she still has an active username. Right now we are all just worried. So belittling one another is getting us where? One of the biggest reasons we keep the boards open so that you don't have to post an intro post or PM a mod for access is so that the mamas that lurk can learn and unlearn from us... What are they learning right now? They are learning that a board filled with so many bright and intelligent ladies can't even get along. When shit goes down in your family do you turn on one another and point fingers? Do you drag out the fight until someone is no longer part of the family? I doubt it. So seriously look at GM like its your family because for some of us it damn well is. Family comes together in rough times and helps each other. Well here is our rough time. Turning on one another for mistakes we can't take back isn't going to help.
For the people who have brought up that we are alienating the girls GM was made for... well that would be Britt. Shes young just like AZ/LC. So really most of us could bow out of this right now just based on age right? So lets back off of her and let it go. She's sorry. It will be a learning experience for ALL of us. (And really if you want to attack someone let it be me. I was the one to bring something out of a private forum and was the first one to be overly snarky to her). End of story.
I think we're all sorry for any wrong doing we've done, we've all made mistakes and somethings we can't just "fix." Some things are a process of learning/unlearning and you have to even do that with mistakes. Is there always a right and a wrong in a situation? Not necessarily ... we are here at girl-mom for a pretty similar reason: we're mamas - young mamas at that that feel marganlized by society and need a space, a safe space to feel that others know where we're at ... (or allies, of course!). A safe space to feel okay about being a young mama, choosing to have an abortion, choosing adoption and getting advice on parenting, growing kids, our growing selves - physically and emotionally ...
I know there was a time, well a few ... where I was called out on. When I had dreads, at the time I didn't think it was really a big deal, but we had a big discussion on girl-mom about it and I cut my hair several months later and I am so glad I did! That discussion from girl-mom made me realize a LOT ... and even though I did feel attacked and stupid and wanting to leave, I learned.
And that's what girl-mom is about. We're not here to attack each other, make each other feel bad and regretful of something we did ... we're here to help each other and support each other. And even though, at times it can make us feel shitty and not so good (I am sure we've all been here while on girl-mom), I must say that the positive totally outweighs the bad experiences I've had on here.
And I must admit, I've definitely learned a lot just from this experience.
Kell I completely forgot about that, you and RM2B were like closer then anyone on the boards, you helped her out more then anyone and were one of her 'best friends'.
Yup.
Most of the older members here should know that too. I had no fuken clue what was going on and then one day i just read all the threads in BR and just was in awww. I was confused and just shocked. BUT i would prefer to be hurt by one troll then out a REAL teen mama that really needs support. Thats just my opinion.
So hearing my opinion on this troll thing (to me) is vital info.
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Also maybe what needs to be done is a MOD trial period.
Or maybe dont get mods that have only been here such amount of time.
Ya know?
I'm coming in at the tail end of this thing but as a mama who has been a member of this site for almost 7 years now i have to say-
This entire thread makes me ill.
This situation was handled inappropriately by all parties involved.
Mods- you messed up, AZM- you messed up.
Deal with it.
I don't want to come to this place that has been like a second home to me, and read thread after thread of snarky bullshit being thrown back and forth.
I could not believe that we had a whole new forum which seems to be devoted to this complete lack of community.
This does not speak of moving on and moving up.
Instead it is filled to the brim with calling out and finger-pointing.
Never in all my time here has there been such complete lack of sisterhood.
What a disappointment.
this troll we had a few years ago she was like, on the site for years feeding us a bunch of bs and then was finally caught, her screenname was rileysmama2be16 or something like that.
We honestly do and have discussed possible trolls ... and even follow up on PMs we get from people regarding trolls. As well as anyone trying to add extra drama or anti-choice remarks, racist, etc ... and sadly there has been some that have been missed or not discuss. RM2B is one that no one noticed right away. And thanks to the ones who did out her as a troll ... she even had an LJ.
But anyways, this is about as useful as banging yr head on a brick wall, so y'all have fun now.
I just hope that it's recognized that things in this situation were dealt with 100%, and know better for next time a situation arises.
AM if you're reading this, sorry you're dealing with all this ganging up on drama, and I hope you're doing okay, you have my email feel free to use it. Or like, zomg hack it and stuff.
er, should say dealt with 100% WRONG, cause golly knows it wasn't dealt with ;)
Peace.
I just have to say that this is the biggest difference I see in the two cases. RM2B was not just banned because one mod wanted to ban her, it was after MONTHS of research so that we wouldn't push away someone who REALLLY needed help.
Why are you all attacking one another? Seriously if one mama got pushed away from the boards its bad enough. But why sit here and continue to belittle one another? How is that productive at ALL? We are all grown ups here, so please start acting like it. Apologies were made all around and LC/AZ knows she is welcome here. Apologies were made to her and she still has an active username. Right now we are all just worried. So belittling one another is getting us where? One of the biggest reasons we keep the boards open so that you don't have to post an intro post or PM a mod for access is so that the mamas that lurk can learn and unlearn from us... What are they learning right now? They are learning that a board filled with so many bright and intelligent ladies can't even get along. When shit goes down in your family do you turn on one another and point fingers? Do you drag out the fight until someone is no longer part of the family? I doubt it. So seriously look at GM like its your family because for some of us it damn well is. Family comes together in rough times and helps each other. Well here is our rough time. Turning on one another for mistakes we can't take back isn't going to help.
For the people who have brought up that we are alienating the girls GM was made for... well that would be Britt. Shes young just like AZ/LC. So really most of us could bow out of this right now just based on age right? So lets back off of her and let it go. She's sorry. It will be a learning experience for ALL of us. (And really if you want to attack someone let it be me. I was the one to bring something out of a private forum and was the first one to be overly snarky to her). End of story.
Word, Jenni.
I think we're all sorry for any wrong doing we've done, we've all made mistakes and somethings we can't just "fix." Some things are a process of learning/unlearning and you have to even do that with mistakes. Is there always a right and a wrong in a situation? Not necessarily ... we are here at girl-mom for a pretty similar reason: we're mamas - young mamas at that that feel marganlized by society and need a space, a safe space to feel that others know where we're at ... (or allies, of course!). A safe space to feel okay about being a young mama, choosing to have an abortion, choosing adoption and getting advice on parenting, growing kids, our growing selves - physically and emotionally ...
I know there was a time, well a few ... where I was called out on. When I had dreads, at the time I didn't think it was really a big deal, but we had a big discussion on girl-mom about it and I cut my hair several months later and I am so glad I did! That discussion from girl-mom made me realize a LOT ... and even though I did feel attacked and stupid and wanting to leave, I learned.
And that's what girl-mom is about. We're not here to attack each other, make each other feel bad and regretful of something we did ... we're here to help each other and support each other. And even though, at times it can make us feel shitty and not so good (I am sure we've all been here while on girl-mom), I must say that the positive totally outweighs the bad experiences I've had on here.
And I must admit, I've definitely learned a lot just from this experience.
Yup.
Most of the older members here should know that too. I had no fuken clue what was going on and then one day i just read all the threads in BR and just was in awww. I was confused and just shocked. BUT i would prefer to be hurt by one troll then out a REAL teen mama that really needs support. Thats just my opinion.
So hearing my opinion on this troll thing (to me) is vital info.
-------------------------
Also maybe what needs to be done is a MOD trial period.
Or maybe dont get mods that have only been here such amount of time.
Ya know?
I'm coming in at the tail end of this thing but as a mama who has been a member of this site for almost 7 years now i have to say-
This entire thread makes me ill.
This situation was handled inappropriately by all parties involved.
Mods- you messed up, AZM- you messed up.
Deal with it.
I don't want to come to this place that has been like a second home to me, and read thread after thread of snarky bullshit being thrown back and forth.
I could not believe that we had a whole new forum which seems to be devoted to this complete lack of community.
This does not speak of moving on and moving up.
Instead it is filled to the brim with calling out and finger-pointing.
Never in all my time here has there been such complete lack of sisterhood.
What a disappointment.
i know this is old.... but who is rm2b?????
this troll we had a few years ago she was like, on the site for years feeding us a bunch of bs and then was finally caught, her screenname was rileysmama2be16 or something like that.
i think ive seen her on other sites or it could just be a coincidence
I believe she has been on other sites ... have you seen her recently?
dont forget... i was rileysmom everywhere until that happened and i changed everything except lj!!
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