Teen Charged With Assault Of Pregnant Girlfriend *Trigger*

I guess in someway i have to agree that you cannot consent to an illegal act. If a 15 year old and an 18 year old are caught in bed together, it is still illgal ya know?
But still, i have to believe the boy was not the only guilty party. I think the girl was active in this too, but just did not hit herself.

i agree about the consent to a illegal act thing... but i just don't understand how u could let someone hit u with a baseball bat... pregnant or not!! ouch!!!

I think it's been asked before, to not post any alarmist or media hype news articles unless there's something that can be done about it, and then it'd be beneficial to provide links as to where you can write and what you can do. Really all that most articles do is 1. get us enraged at a system that limits are access to abortion so people have to beat themselves with bats, 2. the dead baby/child articles always only depress us, and there's nothing we can do to change them. Know what I mean?

As well as I'm pretty sure this was already posted a while ago here, if you give me a few mins, I'll try to find the link to the previous topic about this for ya.

http://www.girl-mom.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5796

actually i think this is a really good chance to discuss some rather murky aspects of relationships, assault, and consent.

can someone consent to being assaulted? if they can, is it still assault? do we wish he wasn't being charged? how would we feel if he wasn't? can we trust that he wasn't abusive and that the consent wasn't coerced? how do we KNOW she wanted to end the pregnancy? if the girl was also taking lots of hot baths, douching with coca-cola, and doing all of the other urban legends that are said to induce miscarriage, would we be more comfortable with the charges? if the girl is also a "guilty party," is there anything to really be guilty for?

our first thought with these kinds of cases is generally "if access to abortion wasn't so limited," but is that fair? is that really what's going on here? if we were to allow someone's consent to keep someone who assaulted them from being charged, where would that leave the fights against domestic violence and violence against women in general? many people have been coerced by their attackers or through fear of retribution.

those are just some of the things i was thinking as i read that article.

Those are good points, I guess in the other article all we talked about was why the parents were charged with burying fetal remains, and how it was caused by limitation to access of proper abortion.

I never stopped to think that maybe the girl didn't really want to go along with it, I just figured she'd never let the man hit her in the stomach so often unless she was that desperate to end the pregnancy - which yes, is very dangerous thinking in regards to association with domestic violence, to think that because she didn't stop it that she's responsible for it. There's really not any ways to find out if she truly wanted for it to happen, unless she speaks up about it.

And.. douching with coca cola?? I never heard of that, but now that I have - it sounds pretty freaking painful, that stuff is pretty acidic.

You didn't offend me, I was just rambling out loud. It also DID lead to good discussion, if you'd read the rest of the replies. Don't stop posting here just because of that, it's silly - I like you, I like your posts, I just figured you didn't know the story was posted before, so I posted the link just in case you'd want to read the discussion it led to that time. Sorry if it sounded silencing, it truly wasn't meant to be, but I tend to talk out of my ass sometimes.

Stay, and whatnot.