My daughter was given cows milk at 9 month old. I wasn't gonna spend all that money on a tin of milk when cows milk does just as good, if not better.
My son was having cows milk by the time he was 9 month old too.
I'm a FF, not a BF, so this isn't a bias or anything... so here we go
Cow's milk and formula are not the same thing. Formula is derived from cow's milk, but is altered to be closer to human breast milk. Plain ol cow's milk can trigger allergies, problems with their GI tract. It also interferes with the absorption of iron, and can cause a baby to become anemic.
My daughter was given cows milk at 9 month old. I wasn't gonna spend all that money on a tin of milk when cows milk does just as good, if not better.
My son was having cows milk by the time he was 9 month old too.
Cow's milk is not "just as good" in any way shape or form as breastmilk. Breastmilk is the standard for infant feeding according to the WHO so it would make sense that a subsitutes (I'm not trying to offend FF- just to make this make sense) need to continue as long. The AAP says 12 months as a MINIMUM not "it's great if you make it that far." Those three months make a BIG difference.
Cow's milk is not made for humans- it's made for baby cows. A baby fed cow's milk has a MUCH higher rate of all kinds of diseases and immune problems with things like asthma, open gut, and a host of other problems.
Solid food is not recommended before 6 months with the baby getting the BULK of nutrition from breastmilk or formula until at least 12 months (again- a minimum.) My baby still get's 50% of his nutrition from breastmilk at 18 months old.
I am not trying to be snarky. I am concered about the health of a baby weaned at 9 months. I stongly suggest you discuss this with your child's doctor. I cannot imagine a single one that would agree with weaning at 9 months to cow's milk. (The WHO says 24 months for cow's milk, not 12 even.)
I'm gunna do it because I've been told by plunket, and mothers twice my age that have said that they gave their babies digested cows milk and they are healthy and normal.
I just want to point out that this is a site for teen/young moms and we aren't validating ourselves by "older" moms. We are all moms who make our own choices for our children. Also- "older" moms make mistakes just like "younger" moms do. No one is perfect :)
it isnt recomended to give cows milk to a child until they are at least one year of age, because their stomachs arent developed enough and could cause allergies. Breastfeeding is uptimum but if you dont breastfeed you should to formula feed until 12 months of age
lets get this topic back on track, it was just a simple question as to weather you breastfed or bottle fed and why.
Cow's milk is not "just as good" in any way shape or form as breastmilk. Breastmilk is the standard for infant feeding according to the WHO so it would make sense that a subsitutes (I'm not trying to offend FF- just to make this make sense) need to continue as long. The AAP says 12 months as a MINIMUM not "it's great if you make it that far." Those three months make a BIG difference.
Cow's milk is not made for humans- it's made for baby cows. A baby fed cow's milk has a MUCH higher rate of all kinds of diseases and immune problems with things like asthma, open gut, and a host of other problems.
Solid food is not recommended before 6 months with the baby getting the BULK of nutrition from breastmilk or formula until at least 12 months (again- a minimum.) My baby still get's 50% of his nutrition from breastmilk at 18 months old.
I am not trying to be snarky. I am concered about the health of a baby weaned at 9 months. I stongly suggest you discuss this with your child's doctor. I cannot imagine a single one that would agree with weaning at 9 months to cow's milk. (The WHO says 24 months for cow's milk, not 12 even.)
GOSH, some mothers like you delpicky can be so b*tchy while trying to prove a point. I'm actually sitting here right now laughing my head off at you :lol:. And I think that you are just as bad as a mother who complains about formula feeding and say breastmilk is way better, just to make the mother feel bad. Ok first of all, my doctor actually DID recommend 'DILUTED' cow's milk, and I don't know how the system works over in the US or UK, but I think in New Zealand things are a bit different. Plunket is our child care service by the way. My baby hates formula this is why she recomended it if I do actually wean her off at 9 months, and she said that babies that are breastfed have their immunity by 6 months, but a formula baby is does not. Formula fed babies a recommended to have formula until 12 months. And over here solid food is actually recommended after 4 months, because some babies need the iron after then, which is the most important. (and plus their little stomachs can handle the food by then.) I'm actually surprised that the person who took interest in what I am doing in the first place even bothered replying, how pathetic. Well I'm just doing what I want to do, and what my mother did to me, and what her mother did to her and so on, okay. I don't dis mothers who feed their babies formula, its none of my bussiness what other mothers do. And you know how you said cow's milk is not made for babies because they are more prone to diseases?? well I've heard alot of bad things about formula.. like of how scientists had proven that formula has contained meningococcal, meningitis and those sort of diseases, because of the bacteria people put in it unintentionally when it is made (which is deadly to a little bubba). So I've got my own opinion, and you have yours so get over it and stop trying to be a 'know it all'...because as I said previously I am planing on feeding till 9 months-12 months, but i will probably breastfeed until 12 months, because I love it so much. And at the least 9 months.
Anyway I wasn't asking for anyone's opinion, I was only giving my opinion to bottle feed v breastfed. But I guess you are considered 'on to it' by the way you have made such a big deal on the way I am going to bring up my baby.
some mothers like you delpicky can be so b*tchy while trying to prove a point. I'm actually sitting here right now laughing my head off at you :lol:. And I think that you are just as bad as a mother who complains about formula feeding and say breastmilk is way better, just to make the mother feel bad.
I don't dis mothers who feed their babies formula, its none of my bussiness what other mothers do.
And you know how you said cow's milk is not made for babies because they are more prone to diseases??
There is solid evidence in the other thread in this forum titled "Cow's Milk before 12 months??"
I did NOT say anything negative about formula. Saying cow's milk is unhealthy and inappropriate for infants is not the same as saying anything about formula. They are completly different. I am not "trying to make mother's feel bad" and I think if you read my past posts it will be evident that I am obvioulsy not at this site to hurt other mothers.
All the immunities are NOT transfered by 6 months. In fact scientists have discovered that at 24 months and beyond a toddler continues to recieve new immunities from mother's milk. A baby NEEDS either breastmilk or formula until 12 months at least. period. Giving cow's milk before that point is dangerous. It is your baby- your choice but I am asking you to seriously consider that choice as it will affect your child for the rest of their life- whether it's obvious at the time or not.
I am very offenened by your tone. I offer information and you think it's funny? I am genuinely concerned for the health of your child.
It is not appropriate on this site to use the term "b*tchy" as it is anti woman.
Anyway I wasn't asking for anyone's opinion, I was only giving my opinion to bottle feed v breastfed. But I guess you are considered 'on to it' by the way you have made such a big deal on the way I am going to bring up my baby.
I am questioning your feeding choice of cow's milk before 12 months not your entire parenting of your baby. I'm not sure where you got that from...
Anyway- I am done with this conversation. When I am called b*chy the conversation has stopped being respectful and I require respect in a conversation for it to continue.
There is solid evidence in the other thread in this forum titled "Cow's Milk before 12 months??"
I did NOT say anything negative about formula. Saying cow's milk is unhealthy and inappropriate for infants is not the same as saying anything about formula. They are completely different. I am not "trying to make mother's feel bad" and I think if you read my past posts it will be evident that I am obviously not at this site to hurt other mothers.
All the immunities are NOT transferred by 6 months. In fact scientists have discovered that at 24 months and beyond a toddler continues to receive new immunities from mother's milk. A baby NEEDS either breast milk or formula until 12 months at least. period. Giving cow's milk before that point is dangerous. It is your baby- your choice but I am asking you to seriously consider that choice as it will affect your child for the rest of their life- whether it's obvious at the time or not.
I am very offended by your tone. I offer information and you think it's funny? I am genuinely concerned for the health of your child.
It is not appropriate on this site to use the term "b*tchy" as it is anti woman.
Well b*tchy was the only word I could think of to describe you. Sorry if I offended you, but I am offended by you. I just think you are silly making such a big fuss about it. And ANYWAY, I said at the least I will breastfeed until 9 months, but I am perfectly happy breastfeeding until 12 months, as long as we have no problems. Giving your baby diluted cows milk is not as dangerous as what you are telling me. I think you are being a bit silly over this and actually exaggerating the truth a little bit... :wink: :roll:
'feeding choice' DOES come under parenting over all. Okay, so I hope you have finished trying to make yourself sound like a saint by correcting me on the way I might feed my baby.
Um Delthikie..look back and READ what I actually wrote..I didn't even say parenting of baby..I said they way I BRING up my baby. And hello?? anybody home?? This whole forum is called BRINGING up your baby. :lol:
Yes it may not be RECOMENDED, but neither is lying the baby on it's front, but yet when I was a baby I was laid on my front to sleep as that was the "safest" position.
It isn't recomended that you give your baby solids before they are 4 month old, but I give my son them a lot sooner.
Don't you try and sit there and preach to me. I have a happy, heathly 4 year old boy as well as a happy, healthy 13 month old daughter. And on top of that I'm fine as is my brothers and my grandma's kids. We were all given cows milk before 12 month old.
You can read all the books you want and you can follow what they say but I don't and I will not sit here and be spoke down to by noone.
Lil_r0ta_baybe they think they know everything cos they have read a few books. You do what you feel is best for your child and don't let NOONE try to tell you different. A mother knows her own child best.
B*tchy is not an acceptable word to use on this forum, even with the cute little * in the place of an i. Please check out the thread about anti-woman language (its either in Social Justice or Announcements).
And Delphiki made a new topic for this to keep this from swaying from the original poster's questions. One of our kickass mods has already said to keep this on topic, so lets respect that and move on to the other thread.
Look, Delphiki is trying to give you advice because she is concerned. I'm concerned, too. It is NOT safe to give a baby cow's milk, really, it isn't. Cow's milk is not intended for human children anyway, and especially not at their most vulnerable state as infants. I don't think this needs to be repeated. The point of GirlMom is to educate and help each other. "Mom" does NOT always know best and sometimes needs a little help and encouragement from others. Mothering isn't always instinctual, especially in a society that shoves us differing ideas on what mothering is constantly.
I will repeat, cow's milk is not safe or healthy for infants, and especially not diluted cow's milk. I suggest you talk to a physician about that immediately.
Move this to the other thread and please respect each other.
Why can't you respect anyone elses point of view on things? Both my children was given cows milk under the age of 12 month and they are perfectly healthy. Yes we do know best. We know our children better than anyone. Better than any doctor or stupid book will do.
They know what has happened to some babies cos of different things, but everyone is different. Giveing my mum and her siblings milk at 8 month old hasn't done nothing to them, givin me and my brothers cows milk at 9 month old hasn't done us no harm and it hasn't done my children no harm.
I solely breastfed for the first 4 months and then switched to a lactose free formula. I never understood it, I'm lactose intolerant so I don't consume dairy, but there was still lactose in my milk and my son was lactose intolerant. I tried to alter my diet a lot to see what was causing it, but he was still in a lot of pain. Amazingly gassy, very colicy, his poor stomach was distended every day, and the day after we made the switch to lacto-free formula it all stopped. I still wish I could have kept trying to find a way to make my BM work, but I've done a bit of researching around and I'm sure I can BF for longer with my next child.
so after switching to formula things got better, huh? at least you found something that worked.
My little guy was super gassy until he was about three months old, but our problem was do to an ovesupply of milk/forceful letdown. By the way, if anyone has any questions about oversupply, I'd be happy to discuss it. I bet delphiki would also.
Why can't you respect anyone elses point of view on things? Both my children was given cows milk under the age of 12 month and they are perfectly healthy. Yes we do know best. We know our children better than anyone. Better than any doctor or stupid book will do.
They know what has happened to some babies cos of different things, but everyone is different. Giveing my mum and her siblings milk at 8 month old hasn't done nothing to them, givin me and my brothers cows milk at 9 month old hasn't done us no harm and it hasn't done my children no harm.
Yea I totally agree with you lesley. I think some mothers just stick to the books too much, and thats fine if they want to do that. But I know what is right for my baby and I'm not going to let some know it all mother try and tell me that what I might do is wrong. Those sort of people don't see eye to eye, and they probably never will. Mothers have given their babies cows milk for years, and it has never been a problem to those babies, nor has it had any long term affects. I'm not going to bother wasting my money on bludy formula. Some mothers are just so pedantic and silly, they just want to kick up a big fuss over something that really doesn't mean anytihng to them, i dunno maybe its bcoz they are bored with their lives or something and have nothing else better to do..beats me. :roll:
There haven't been any problems, huh? Gastrointestinal issues aren't exactly a myth, nor are allergies. I really suggest you educate yourself instead of taking all of this advice and concern as a joke.
Fact is: you give your kid cow's milk at 9 months instead of breastmilk or formula and you are giving your child subpar nutrition.
erica go to the cow's milk thread, and see what I wrote. And read the part where I said that you said that this thread is not a place to debate..what I want to know is why on earth are you debating yourself huh??? instead of standing on the fence lie a good site admin would do, instead of taking sides, and threatening to kick us off the site. Giving your own 'opinion' is also known as 'freedom of speech'.
Oh, yeah, I forgot that when I became an admin on this LEFT-LEANING, FEMINIST website that I also had to give up all of my opinions and instead just stand on the sidelines. No, not a chance of that happening.
Also, GirlMom never claimed to have freedom of speech. Respect is required here and I'm not seeing a lot of that.
I'm a FF, not a BF, so this isn't a bias or anything... so here we go
Cow's milk and formula are not the same thing. Formula is derived from cow's milk, but is altered to be closer to human breast milk. Plain ol cow's milk can trigger allergies, problems with their GI tract. It also interferes with the absorption of iron, and can cause a baby to become anemic.
Cow's milk is not "just as good" in any way shape or form as breastmilk. Breastmilk is the standard for infant feeding according to the WHO so it would make sense that a subsitutes (I'm not trying to offend FF- just to make this make sense) need to continue as long. The AAP says 12 months as a MINIMUM not "it's great if you make it that far." Those three months make a BIG difference.
Cow's milk is not made for humans- it's made for baby cows. A baby fed cow's milk has a MUCH higher rate of all kinds of diseases and immune problems with things like asthma, open gut, and a host of other problems.
Solid food is not recommended before 6 months with the baby getting the BULK of nutrition from breastmilk or formula until at least 12 months (again- a minimum.) My baby still get's 50% of his nutrition from breastmilk at 18 months old.
I am not trying to be snarky. I am concered about the health of a baby weaned at 9 months. I stongly suggest you discuss this with your child's doctor. I cannot imagine a single one that would agree with weaning at 9 months to cow's milk. (The WHO says 24 months for cow's milk, not 12 even.)
I just want to point out that this is a site for teen/young moms and we aren't validating ourselves by "older" moms. We are all moms who make our own choices for our children. Also- "older" moms make mistakes just like "younger" moms do. No one is perfect :)
it isnt recomended to give cows milk to a child until they are at least one year of age, because their stomachs arent developed enough and could cause allergies. Breastfeeding is uptimum but if you dont breastfeed you should to formula feed until 12 months of age
lets get this topic back on track, it was just a simple question as to weather you breastfed or bottle fed and why.
Cow's milk is not "just as good" in any way shape or form as breastmilk. Breastmilk is the standard for infant feeding according to the WHO so it would make sense that a subsitutes (I'm not trying to offend FF- just to make this make sense) need to continue as long. The AAP says 12 months as a MINIMUM not "it's great if you make it that far." Those three months make a BIG difference.
Cow's milk is not made for humans- it's made for baby cows. A baby fed cow's milk has a MUCH higher rate of all kinds of diseases and immune problems with things like asthma, open gut, and a host of other problems.
Solid food is not recommended before 6 months with the baby getting the BULK of nutrition from breastmilk or formula until at least 12 months (again- a minimum.) My baby still get's 50% of his nutrition from breastmilk at 18 months old.
I am not trying to be snarky. I am concered about the health of a baby weaned at 9 months. I stongly suggest you discuss this with your child's doctor. I cannot imagine a single one that would agree with weaning at 9 months to cow's milk. (The WHO says 24 months for cow's milk, not 12 even.)
GOSH, some mothers like you delpicky can be so b*tchy while trying to prove a point. I'm actually sitting here right now laughing my head off at you :lol:. And I think that you are just as bad as a mother who complains about formula feeding and say breastmilk is way better, just to make the mother feel bad. Ok first of all, my doctor actually DID recommend 'DILUTED' cow's milk, and I don't know how the system works over in the US or UK, but I think in New Zealand things are a bit different. Plunket is our child care service by the way. My baby hates formula this is why she recomended it if I do actually wean her off at 9 months, and she said that babies that are breastfed have their immunity by 6 months, but a formula baby is does not. Formula fed babies a recommended to have formula until 12 months. And over here solid food is actually recommended after 4 months, because some babies need the iron after then, which is the most important. (and plus their little stomachs can handle the food by then.) I'm actually surprised that the person who took interest in what I am doing in the first place even bothered replying, how pathetic. Well I'm just doing what I want to do, and what my mother did to me, and what her mother did to her and so on, okay. I don't dis mothers who feed their babies formula, its none of my bussiness what other mothers do. And you know how you said cow's milk is not made for babies because they are more prone to diseases?? well I've heard alot of bad things about formula.. like of how scientists had proven that formula has contained meningococcal, meningitis and those sort of diseases, because of the bacteria people put in it unintentionally when it is made (which is deadly to a little bubba). So I've got my own opinion, and you have yours so get over it and stop trying to be a 'know it all'...because as I said previously I am planing on feeding till 9 months-12 months, but i will probably breastfeed until 12 months, because I love it so much. And at the least 9 months.
Anyway I wasn't asking for anyone's opinion, I was only giving my opinion to bottle feed v breastfed. But I guess you are considered 'on to it' by the way you have made such a big deal on the way I am going to bring up my baby.
There is solid evidence in the other thread in this forum titled "Cow's Milk before 12 months??"
I did NOT say anything negative about formula. Saying cow's milk is unhealthy and inappropriate for infants is not the same as saying anything about formula. They are completly different. I am not "trying to make mother's feel bad" and I think if you read my past posts it will be evident that I am obvioulsy not at this site to hurt other mothers.
All the immunities are NOT transfered by 6 months. In fact scientists have discovered that at 24 months and beyond a toddler continues to recieve new immunities from mother's milk. A baby NEEDS either breastmilk or formula until 12 months at least. period. Giving cow's milk before that point is dangerous. It is your baby- your choice but I am asking you to seriously consider that choice as it will affect your child for the rest of their life- whether it's obvious at the time or not.
I am very offenened by your tone. I offer information and you think it's funny? I am genuinely concerned for the health of your child.
It is not appropriate on this site to use the term "b*tchy" as it is anti woman.
I am questioning your feeding choice of cow's milk before 12 months not your entire parenting of your baby. I'm not sure where you got that from...
Anyway- I am done with this conversation. When I am called b*chy the conversation has stopped being respectful and I require respect in a conversation for it to continue.
Peace.
There is solid evidence in the other thread in this forum titled "Cow's Milk before 12 months??"
I did NOT say anything negative about formula. Saying cow's milk is unhealthy and inappropriate for infants is not the same as saying anything about formula. They are completely different. I am not "trying to make mother's feel bad" and I think if you read my past posts it will be evident that I am obviously not at this site to hurt other mothers.
All the immunities are NOT transferred by 6 months. In fact scientists have discovered that at 24 months and beyond a toddler continues to receive new immunities from mother's milk. A baby NEEDS either breast milk or formula until 12 months at least. period. Giving cow's milk before that point is dangerous. It is your baby- your choice but I am asking you to seriously consider that choice as it will affect your child for the rest of their life- whether it's obvious at the time or not.
I am very offended by your tone. I offer information and you think it's funny? I am genuinely concerned for the health of your child.
It is not appropriate on this site to use the term "b*tchy" as it is anti woman.
Well b*tchy was the only word I could think of to describe you. Sorry if I offended you, but I am offended by you. I just think you are silly making such a big fuss about it. And ANYWAY, I said at the least I will breastfeed until 9 months, but I am perfectly happy breastfeeding until 12 months, as long as we have no problems. Giving your baby diluted cows milk is not as dangerous as what you are telling me. I think you are being a bit silly over this and actually exaggerating the truth a little bit... :wink: :roll:
anyway, I'm no better than you are carrying this on aswell..so i'm going to leave it at this aswell.
'feeding choice' DOES come under parenting over all. Okay, so I hope you have finished trying to make yourself sound like a saint by correcting me on the way I might feed my baby.
Um Delthikie..look back and READ what I actually wrote..I didn't even say parenting of baby..I said they way I BRING up my baby. And hello?? anybody home?? This whole forum is called BRINGING up your baby. :lol:
Yes it may not be RECOMENDED, but neither is lying the baby on it's front, but yet when I was a baby I was laid on my front to sleep as that was the "safest" position.
It isn't recomended that you give your baby solids before they are 4 month old, but I give my son them a lot sooner.
Don't you try and sit there and preach to me. I have a happy, heathly 4 year old boy as well as a happy, healthy 13 month old daughter. And on top of that I'm fine as is my brothers and my grandma's kids. We were all given cows milk before 12 month old.
You can read all the books you want and you can follow what they say but I don't and I will not sit here and be spoke down to by noone.
Lil_r0ta_baybe they think they know everything cos they have read a few books. You do what you feel is best for your child and don't let NOONE try to tell you different. A mother knows her own child best.
B*tchy is not an acceptable word to use on this forum, even with the cute little * in the place of an i. Please check out the thread about anti-woman language (its either in Social Justice or Announcements).
And Delphiki made a new topic for this to keep this from swaying from the original poster's questions. One of our kickass mods has already said to keep this on topic, so lets respect that and move on to the other thread.
FYI: the b word is not to be used here, ever.
Look, Delphiki is trying to give you advice because she is concerned. I'm concerned, too. It is NOT safe to give a baby cow's milk, really, it isn't. Cow's milk is not intended for human children anyway, and especially not at their most vulnerable state as infants. I don't think this needs to be repeated. The point of GirlMom is to educate and help each other. "Mom" does NOT always know best and sometimes needs a little help and encouragement from others. Mothering isn't always instinctual, especially in a society that shoves us differing ideas on what mothering is constantly.
I will repeat, cow's milk is not safe or healthy for infants, and especially not diluted cow's milk. I suggest you talk to a physician about that immediately.
Move this to the other thread and please respect each other.
Why can't you respect anyone elses point of view on things? Both my children was given cows milk under the age of 12 month and they are perfectly healthy. Yes we do know best. We know our children better than anyone. Better than any doctor or stupid book will do.
They know what has happened to some babies cos of different things, but everyone is different. Giveing my mum and her siblings milk at 8 month old hasn't done nothing to them, givin me and my brothers cows milk at 9 month old hasn't done us no harm and it hasn't done my children no harm.
How is stating fact not being respectful? Cow's milk is not intended for humans.
Take this to the other thread or this one will be locked. This is not the place for debate.
*getting back on topic now*
I solely breastfed for the first 4 months and then switched to a lactose free formula. I never understood it, I'm lactose intolerant so I don't consume dairy, but there was still lactose in my milk and my son was lactose intolerant. I tried to alter my diet a lot to see what was causing it, but he was still in a lot of pain. Amazingly gassy, very colicy, his poor stomach was distended every day, and the day after we made the switch to lacto-free formula it all stopped. I still wish I could have kept trying to find a way to make my BM work, but I've done a bit of researching around and I'm sure I can BF for longer with my next child.
so after switching to formula things got better, huh? at least you found something that worked.
My little guy was super gassy until he was about three months old, but our problem was do to an ovesupply of milk/forceful letdown. By the way, if anyone has any questions about oversupply, I'd be happy to discuss it. I bet delphiki would also.
same here emerald.
naivete- did you check for hidden dairy and other possible culprits?
FYI, babies are not redy for solids at four months. See the sticky n feed that baby.
Why can't you respect anyone elses point of view on things? Both my children was given cows milk under the age of 12 month and they are perfectly healthy. Yes we do know best. We know our children better than anyone. Better than any doctor or stupid book will do.
They know what has happened to some babies cos of different things, but everyone is different. Giveing my mum and her siblings milk at 8 month old hasn't done nothing to them, givin me and my brothers cows milk at 9 month old hasn't done us no harm and it hasn't done my children no harm.
Yea I totally agree with you lesley. I think some mothers just stick to the books too much, and thats fine if they want to do that. But I know what is right for my baby and I'm not going to let some know it all mother try and tell me that what I might do is wrong. Those sort of people don't see eye to eye, and they probably never will. Mothers have given their babies cows milk for years, and it has never been a problem to those babies, nor has it had any long term affects. I'm not going to bother wasting my money on bludy formula. Some mothers are just so pedantic and silly, they just want to kick up a big fuss over something that really doesn't mean anytihng to them, i dunno maybe its bcoz they are bored with their lives or something and have nothing else better to do..beats me. :roll:
There haven't been any problems, huh? Gastrointestinal issues aren't exactly a myth, nor are allergies. I really suggest you educate yourself instead of taking all of this advice and concern as a joke.
Fact is: you give your kid cow's milk at 9 months instead of breastmilk or formula and you are giving your child subpar nutrition.
erica go to the cow's milk thread, and see what I wrote. And read the part where I said that you said that this thread is not a place to debate..what I want to know is why on earth are you debating yourself huh??? instead of standing on the fence lie a good site admin would do, instead of taking sides, and threatening to kick us off the site. Giving your own 'opinion' is also known as 'freedom of speech'.
seee wot I mean...mothers that don't see eye to eye..probably never will.. :o
Oh, yeah, I forgot that when I became an admin on this LEFT-LEANING, FEMINIST website that I also had to give up all of my opinions and instead just stand on the sidelines. No, not a chance of that happening.
Also, GirlMom never claimed to have freedom of speech. Respect is required here and I'm not seeing a lot of that.
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